Thanks for having David, I have read several of his books and find him to have an investigative ability second to none.
What has to be kept in perspective is the fact that fear is the result of an emotional reaction to the unknown, David is doing us all a favour by educating the world to how we have been controlled for millennium.
By exercising our own personal reasoning ability based on Love then things will change for the better.
David Icke is doing a lot of damage to the ‘occupy’ movement.
Here is the problem: The whole first part is great; fractional reserve banking, inequality, bailouts- this is what ‘occupy’ is all about, it’s not controversial at this point. THEN, he proceeds to link that with things that are not just controversial, but are so far out there will lead to to the all of these issues being relegated to the nutty conspiracy theory pile (911 done by CIA/Mossad, climate change as a conspiracy). What’s next David? Contrails, UFO cover-ups?
Even though there is a lot of uncertainty about 911, it just makes you look like an idiot if you present it as being an open and shut case. You should realize that you’re not going to convince anyone with such tactics and you and any other issues you attach it to are going to just look f*cking dumb. He should know better.
It’s sad when the lunatics manage to slip undetected into some sort of spokesman role. I used to laugh when this happened in the Tea Party. Sure does suck when it happens to a real populist movement though. David, please stop and think about what you’re doing.
Luke 2891,
Thanks for your opinion. Criticism is a good thing. However, why the need to be fearful/angry/condescending here? Labelling people “f’ing dumb” “idiots” and “lunatics”, as I’m sure you are well aware, can be quite tiresome and just obliterates an otherwise thoughful critique. Just the facts, thanks.
You’re obviously quite passionate about this, and have something to contribute, but it’s important to keep our heads about things and avoid splashing around in our own psychological gutter. If anything dilutes a message, it is emotional ad hominum as one tries to make a case.
We all have views on things. Icke has his, you have yours, I have mine. So be it.
As for David diluting the message… there may be truth in this only so far as we believe everything anyone says or believes has to be “the truth”… as we currently see it. Some of it may resonate for us, some of it may not. Take it or leave it. Undoubtedly, everyone has a unique perspective on “reality”. To each their own.
Because David has clearly delved deeply into researching “reality” for decades now, he’ll certainly have some views that are rather “eccentric” and beggar belief because he has had the courage to explore and peek beyond the very edges of existence, where many of us fear to tread. Ultimately, though, they are his beliefs and we can take ‘em or leave ‘em depending on our own experience and views of the world.
Only a few decades or so ago the reality that Banks make money from nothing and charge interest was considered, by most citizens, as completely ludicrous. They didn’t even want to think that such a simple yet diabolic fraud was possible, so either condescendingly brushed off the idea en mass or marginalized those who were informing them of this reality as, well, idiots, lunatics and f’ing dumb. Today, many of us now accept it as self-evident. You and I are on the same page on this one.
So, probably a good idea to take what makes sense to us and, if we like, use that message to help a “cause” or our own personal growth, etc… and file away or disregard the stuff that we can’t or don’t want to get our head around… yet. As I’ve heard David say many a time, “it’s just a choice mate!”.
Who knows, some of what Icke says now that appears rather bizarre, may just be part of what we see as “truth/reality” in the future. Or not. Either way, if we feel we need to, we can critique another’s opinion/beliefs (quite scathingly if desired), without having to resort to crass ad hominum that take away from your point.
Indeed, luke2891, your final suggestion for David is a sensible one and applies to us all. Thank you for that.
Go David, Light a fire under everybody’s ass. Great comments by all. Pro and Con. I’ve always liked David and he has certainly been way out front in exposing the NWO.
I do believe his consciousness is evolving, even if he does sounds like a Baptist Preacher on Sunday. He has a wide audience he is attempting to reach. Blessings to all.
Well done David. You speak the truth. Abraham Lincoln issued debt-free, government produced money – it was called the greenback, and had this continued the world would be a far better place. Sadly he was murdered by a paid gunman of the banking elite.
Bit paranoic for an elightened guy.David Icke thinks people OWS are repating others messages because they are sheeps.This is simply done because a law prohibits to use microphones or amplifiers on the street and this is why they have created a so-called ‘human mic’.By seeing everything dark, he puts a shade on his objectivity an clarvoyance.Pity.
David teaches on many levels. He is an educator, revealing the sturctures that bind people who have been conditioned from birth. A liberatore bringing fundamental awareness to the growing masses who are awakening under the burnden of financial oppression. Knowedge is a basic step in transformation. He is one of the most courageous people on the planet today to take a stand in the face of the huge darkness that enslaves our daily lives through the evils of fractional reserve banking.
Before one can change anything, awareness of what needs changing within and without is neccessary. Only then does personal choice and responsiblity become relevant and real freedom to choose holds any value.
I have listened to David Icke for many years. I am always amazed that he never allows for, or alludes to, the shift in consciousness that the planet is on the brink of, and that is far more powerful than anyone’s “agenda”, and cannot be stopped. David seems only to be about resistance and “pushing against” evil/darkness/control. I do not disagree with the existence of these structures/powers that he speaks of and their relentless pursuit of control.
However, I do believe there is a greater and far more powerful universal/cosmic “agenda” in play that will introduce a whole new set of variables, thereby making the “dark agenda” nonviable.
This planet is about to be enveloped in a seismic energy wave. More energy will be released in a very few moments than is typically released upon the surface of the earth in many years. The veil will be lifted and all illusion of a destructive nature will be dissolved.
We are already living in the dawning hours of the Age of Planetary Awakening, the age of peace and community building. And though there have been many centuries leading up to this moment, when the moment comes it will be decisive.
I agree with the shift. I agree with quite a bit of what you are saying actually. I do however think that many people are unaware of the universal scheme of what is happening, and maybe, just may be that some need to enter into this kind of paradigm by hearing someone like David. Thank you for sharing, because it has given me another angle to view the shift. Very well written I might add
I agree wholeheartedly. I too think it is more productive to harmonize our thinking and actions with the cosmic shift that is occurring, rather than simply resisting the efforts of those opposed to change. As I witness the inevitable cosmic wave of cultural change, I am reminded of the words of Victor Hugo: “there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come”.
I used to wondar that to. However, i’d say i started at this conspiracy point and it took time before i got to the level of connecting with with my higher self. So i’d say he’s a good place to start for many people and if your want to know anything else there are many good people that do that. Thats what i love about this site there is something for everyboby. Whatever level your on.
p.s for anybody that does know the Contract between the FED and the US goverment ends its 100 year reign on 21/DEC/2012. Amazing you couldn’t make it up. Well worth making sure it doesn’t get renewed.
Thank you so much for this post. David is one of a kind and I’m always grateful to have the opportunity to listen to what’s on his mind.
Great work CMN, thank you for being there for us.
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Thanks for having David, I have read several of his books and find him to have an investigative ability second to none.
What has to be kept in perspective is the fact that fear is the result of an emotional reaction to the unknown, David is doing us all a favour by educating the world to how we have been controlled for millennium.
By exercising our own personal reasoning ability based on Love then things will change for the better.
What an idiot.
David Icke is doing a lot of damage to the ‘occupy’ movement.
Here is the problem: The whole first part is great; fractional reserve banking, inequality, bailouts- this is what ‘occupy’ is all about, it’s not controversial at this point. THEN, he proceeds to link that with things that are not just controversial, but are so far out there will lead to to the all of these issues being relegated to the nutty conspiracy theory pile (911 done by CIA/Mossad, climate change as a conspiracy). What’s next David? Contrails, UFO cover-ups?
Even though there is a lot of uncertainty about 911, it just makes you look like an idiot if you present it as being an open and shut case. You should realize that you’re not going to convince anyone with such tactics and you and any other issues you attach it to are going to just look f*cking dumb. He should know better.
It’s sad when the lunatics manage to slip undetected into some sort of spokesman role. I used to laugh when this happened in the Tea Party. Sure does suck when it happens to a real populist movement though. David, please stop and think about what you’re doing.
Luke 2891,
Thanks for your opinion. Criticism is a good thing. However, why the need to be fearful/angry/condescending here? Labelling people “f’ing dumb” “idiots” and “lunatics”, as I’m sure you are well aware, can be quite tiresome and just obliterates an otherwise thoughful critique. Just the facts, thanks.
You’re obviously quite passionate about this, and have something to contribute, but it’s important to keep our heads about things and avoid splashing around in our own psychological gutter. If anything dilutes a message, it is emotional ad hominum as one tries to make a case.
We all have views on things. Icke has his, you have yours, I have mine. So be it.
As for David diluting the message… there may be truth in this only so far as we believe everything anyone says or believes has to be “the truth”… as we currently see it. Some of it may resonate for us, some of it may not. Take it or leave it. Undoubtedly, everyone has a unique perspective on “reality”. To each their own.
Because David has clearly delved deeply into researching “reality” for decades now, he’ll certainly have some views that are rather “eccentric” and beggar belief because he has had the courage to explore and peek beyond the very edges of existence, where many of us fear to tread. Ultimately, though, they are his beliefs and we can take ‘em or leave ‘em depending on our own experience and views of the world.
Only a few decades or so ago the reality that Banks make money from nothing and charge interest was considered, by most citizens, as completely ludicrous. They didn’t even want to think that such a simple yet diabolic fraud was possible, so either condescendingly brushed off the idea en mass or marginalized those who were informing them of this reality as, well, idiots, lunatics and f’ing dumb. Today, many of us now accept it as self-evident. You and I are on the same page on this one.
So, probably a good idea to take what makes sense to us and, if we like, use that message to help a “cause” or our own personal growth, etc… and file away or disregard the stuff that we can’t or don’t want to get our head around… yet. As I’ve heard David say many a time, “it’s just a choice mate!”.
Who knows, some of what Icke says now that appears rather bizarre, may just be part of what we see as “truth/reality” in the future. Or not. Either way, if we feel we need to, we can critique another’s opinion/beliefs (quite scathingly if desired), without having to resort to crass ad hominum that take away from your point.
Indeed, luke2891, your final suggestion for David is a sensible one and applies to us all. Thank you for that.
Go David, Light a fire under everybody’s ass. Great comments by all. Pro and Con. I’ve always liked David and he has certainly been way out front in exposing the NWO.
I do believe his consciousness is evolving, even if he does sounds like a Baptist Preacher on Sunday. He has a wide audience he is attempting to reach. Blessings to all.
Well done David. You speak the truth. Abraham Lincoln issued debt-free, government produced money – it was called the greenback, and had this continued the world would be a far better place. Sadly he was murdered by a paid gunman of the banking elite.
Bit paranoic for an elightened guy.David Icke thinks people OWS are repating others messages because they are sheeps.This is simply done because a law prohibits to use microphones or amplifiers on the street and this is why they have created a so-called ‘human mic’.By seeing everything dark, he puts a shade on his objectivity an clarvoyance.Pity.
David teaches on many levels. He is an educator, revealing the sturctures that bind people who have been conditioned from birth. A liberatore bringing fundamental awareness to the growing masses who are awakening under the burnden of financial oppression. Knowedge is a basic step in transformation. He is one of the most courageous people on the planet today to take a stand in the face of the huge darkness that enslaves our daily lives through the evils of fractional reserve banking.
Before one can change anything, awareness of what needs changing within and without is neccessary. Only then does personal choice and responsiblity become relevant and real freedom to choose holds any value.
I have listened to David Icke for many years. I am always amazed that he never allows for, or alludes to, the shift in consciousness that the planet is on the brink of, and that is far more powerful than anyone’s “agenda”, and cannot be stopped. David seems only to be about resistance and “pushing against” evil/darkness/control. I do not disagree with the existence of these structures/powers that he speaks of and their relentless pursuit of control.
However, I do believe there is a greater and far more powerful universal/cosmic “agenda” in play that will introduce a whole new set of variables, thereby making the “dark agenda” nonviable.
This planet is about to be enveloped in a seismic energy wave. More energy will be released in a very few moments than is typically released upon the surface of the earth in many years. The veil will be lifted and all illusion of a destructive nature will be dissolved.
We are already living in the dawning hours of the Age of Planetary Awakening, the age of peace and community building. And though there have been many centuries leading up to this moment, when the moment comes it will be decisive.
I agree with the shift. I agree with quite a bit of what you are saying actually. I do however think that many people are unaware of the universal scheme of what is happening, and maybe, just may be that some need to enter into this kind of paradigm by hearing someone like David. Thank you for sharing, because it has given me another angle to view the shift. Very well written I might add
I agree wholeheartedly. I too think it is more productive to harmonize our thinking and actions with the cosmic shift that is occurring, rather than simply resisting the efforts of those opposed to change. As I witness the inevitable cosmic wave of cultural change, I am reminded of the words of Victor Hugo: “there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come”.
I used to wondar that to. However, i’d say i started at this conspiracy point and it took time before i got to the level of connecting with with my higher self. So i’d say he’s a good place to start for many people and if your want to know anything else there are many good people that do that. Thats what i love about this site there is something for everyboby. Whatever level your on.
p.s for anybody that does know the Contract between the FED and the US goverment ends its 100 year reign on 21/DEC/2012. Amazing you couldn’t make it up. Well worth making sure it doesn’t get renewed.
Thank you so much for this post. David is one of a kind and I’m always grateful to have the opportunity to listen to what’s on his mind.
Great work CMN, thank you for being there for us.
Focus people – End the Fed!